"Romulan Kazon Alliance...Did the Romulans not flee when the Kazon ship was attacking this station? Just how recent is this intelligence?".
"I agree with Tom on this one, although I don't beleive Andros would go it alone. Perhaps we should get the crew of the Unity to go with Andros and take the whole base out, but first we need to provide them with some viable trade options. I have a few things.
1. Unlimited access to frontier's subspace teliscope.
2. 1000 pounds of parts for them to build more of there fighters
3. Medical supplies and personal to assit them at there base.
4. An exchange of area maps.
What do you all think?"
"I will also have to agree with Tom on this one. Bending over backwards will show Adros either that we are weak or that we are trying to play him. We may want to ask for things from him also. Similar to the exchange you speak on Richard. We can ask them for the blueprints for there fighter in exchange for parts. At first he may not like this but we can set a limit on the amout of fighters we will build and assure him they will be used for base defense only.
I stress to all of you that we have only 1 shot with this Andros, if he does not believe us worthy allies he WILL NOT become such."
I like your Points Brain.
James, this mission was made by Starfleet in the First place.
ok, what will be the right offer pepole.
Brian, thank you for the information about the warbirds I will use that information to our advantage
So are we in agreement about what to offer Andros? Comments?
Sending the Rivendell to take out the yard. I believe we should try and make the bargin with Andros and have the Photon cannons installed here at frontier before we send the Rivendell off to do it.
I think we can work Frontier into the battle. We do have a great deal of fighters in our bays that could give the Rivendell a nice fallback position.
Also I read about the ship having a shift drive, I think we should test the system before it is used further.
By the way, where is the captain of the Rivendell. The engineer seems to be in command. I know we sent them off to retreve the first officer but where is Taurik?
=A= Lt. Agathon to Hobson =A=
Sir, an ambassador Toreth is requesting to speak with Mr. Higguns on his runabout.
"Gentlemen, we are agreed to open the conversations with food and medical supplies and the Photon cannon plans for our defense only. "
Conference room with a large screen in the front and every seat has computer access.
James, this Mission is a Classfied Mission and phase two will start after Avalon Station has been secured so I will need you help to get every thing ready for the Rivendell as I will put them in the area for 3 months.
Tom, the information about the constuction is 7 months old and we will not be part of Phase one we will be doing Phase two which will cripple the Kazon Vessels and as far as I know I belive the Alliance is strained with the Romluans not going into Action so this will cripple and distroy the Alliance.
"If the people of Andros are assisting in this mission, will there be a need to send the Rivendell into harms way? From the information known to me they are invincible. I am not a supporter of thier pickiness, and carelessness with boarding. Armed guards, speaking loose on how well they can bring armagedon to a race. I don't like it".
Admiral Hobson, I actually came here to visit my old friend Ransom.
Ill stick around for a few minutes admiral.
But Ransom, Hobson was right in one thing, We do need to look out for ourselves if Andros does turn on us, but I dont think thats the case. But to have a back up plan is better then anything, Dont you agree Hobson ?
Oh, I would like to put forth one lil tid bit of information if you dont mind admirals.
One of our Ships detected 2 warbirds in the vicinity of Echo Base. I believe its one of your outposts ?
Dont worry admiral there will be no more spying unless you know about it.
Now onto the current business, Your telling me that This station has no weapons or shields to even defend itself ?, is that what your telling me ?
Garhart is right you should ask for something in return, but be reasonable and Andros will be reasonable with you in return, be respectful, to him and he will return the favor, Andros is probly the most honorable man or alien in this case you will ever meet. Even if you disrespect him to his face he wont show you the same disrespect back, he will be civil with you, Hes very understanding as well. Andros is in short a Avatar so to speak of a midevil knight from earths past history of the dark ages. That pretty much sums it up.
Garhart is right tho, if he wants something then ask for someone of equal or lesser value in return, but dont go over board, Also from my experience with him he wont give you military technology, in some sense he wont give an particular race the advantage over another, meaning if you want those fighter spec's he wont give them to you unless you offer something of equal value in return, but he also wont give those plans to you because they will give you a sharper edge over the other species in this galaxy.
Maybe you should ask him for military support instead of asking for technology ?, Military technology for that matter, Perhaps you give him the Trilirium and in exchange he will give you a Fighter wing to come bye every now and then to check up on you ?.
Or perhaps you should conside the fact that he may allow this exchange of officers but with a certian extent of the meaning.
Or maybe you should ask for something that he has but wouldnt mind giving you ?. All im saying is try not to go towards Military technology unless its for strict defensive purpose. But try and stay away from the subject of military technology for offensive purposes.
you take this one James
Vincent, the Rivendell is taking out the Repair Bases not the Cinstuction Yards.
I know exacly what to do my old friend fir years is the Federation Lasion in Inteligence who has direct dealings with Andros hold on I will contact him
COmputer open Comm Channel Intel Code 7
Aurization RansomRichardbeker34deta3Intel2
Communcation Channel open
==^==
*an Image an oficer appars on the screen*
Wil, we need your Services how long will it take you to get to Frontier Station.
***other person speaks***
Richard I will be there in 45 minites
*as the channel closes the background sound is heard Computer:Tranwarp Engines Standing by*
"That seems like a good bit of things. It is not so submissive, and it is not, as I put it, a one hundred ton gift basket. I think the original plan of items was so full to the point of being rediculous considering what has just happened in our fleet. We are without much of what they have, just as we are told they have what we do not have. I will not deny that I have and will speak out if it seems we are becoming to submissive to a superior culture. If assurances are they are not easily provoked and are peacefull, we should not have to worry about pleasing them with excessive things. Food and Medicines are pure needs of them, it would be prudent to give that as a sign, and as an allie".
Hobson entered the conference room and took a seat.
Iam giving the Order for this mission.
that coulf be possable to send you along I will keep that under adivsement the reason for this mission is to Cripple the Resoursed of the Kazon so they will not be a threat also we must cripple the Kazon Romluan Alliance as these Romluans are rouge its better to deal with them with out the Kazon.
and if we cripple the Re fueling base the Romluans will have to used what ever they have the ties of the Kazon could be cut.
also we will give them Trilirium 20,000 Lbs worth which is 15% of the total we have
Ahh Brian I figured you would turn up sooner or later have a seat* point to an emty Chair next to Hobson*
Tom, I know you have concerns now I whant you to go though it and express the mos trobleing ones
"I am going to have to stick with those concerns still. Anything can make a change, and if that change is for the bad, or the decisions made now in sharing and giving things to these people are to open. Anything for the worse cannot be predicted, the assurances you give are from your observations, unless you have obserbed them without thier knowing it cannot be put forth to dismiss the concerns, which I think 3 of us in this room have expressed potential problems. Be it now or in the future. If the call were given to me, no parts for ship construction would be given, period. They have plenty, that has been repeated in thier strength. We have no logical reason to waste our supplies to a culture who does not have a demand for more ships and no supplies at thier disposal. Regardless of our defence's, our fleets have just finished a war on our own front, with another Supreme culture. I would give them mutual use of our research equipment, welcome on the station, and friendship. If thier leader, Andros, is so nice and peacefull, he will not need a one hundred ton gift basket to accept an alliance".
He took a breath in.
"That is my account on the thing".
He leaned back again, awaiting the other admirals statements.
Same rule applies with the repair bases.
"Thats a good point Tom, but what do we tell them if its not enough? We can lock down replicators to just provide food and medican but then are we sharing technology?"
"I agree, Let us get back to station business. James, we have a new security officer. Can you use him for anything at the moment?"
OOC: Its ok the Meeting is adjoured and Happy Birthday
*Richard Walked in carrying a hanful of Padds*
*goes and take his seat*
When everyone arrives we can get the party started
"Where do the orders come from? I would like to be on a ship during this attack, perhaps to lend Tactical decisions and strategies. Can you give us a timeline of events as to what you foresee to happen?"
well Tom the Parts are to help build there Fighters, also we are to open our Fighter Bays for there Fighters to use to re suppy on the way back to there base also if need be Quarters be Avalible for them when they visit
also we will give them 9 Engineing Repcators also will Access to our Scicence Fatclity there Officers be allowed on the Station mabye an Officer Exange Program so we get to know them better
He stood.
"If anybody has interpreted what I have been trying to say, we are referring to the future with this species. That should be enough said, fairly enough. I have no wish to repeat, since you have been monitoring everything. You have thoughts, I have thoughts. In the end I am advising, it can be used or unused".
"Admiral Higgins, if you would remain on the station after the meeting. Apparently you were not busy with your own situations on your own station to begin an operation here, and act mysterious with that operation. We will need to have a few words".
*brians Turned and accessed the computer that was in front of him and read the message about Malcom, he then Taps into the intelligence encrypted communications channel and sends a reply*
off: sorry i'm late computer was down.
what did i miss
"Any risk in replicators can be avoided. We can provide them with food, and medicine, without directly giving them replicators. I would advise that, and would call that a decent thing to give. Other than that, it would be poor diplomatic work to shower the other end with gifts, the whole point of the thing if we were true would be for the peace, friendship, alliance if the need of an allie to stand behind and aid came. But if there are so many sensitive diplomatic issues as well, why not contact the Embassyon Station Avalon and have them send us somebody with that direct expertise, it might assist".
"Not that i can think of. But i would like to see the Security CO in my office. I havn't seen much of him. And i want to go over the weapons status and some other Tactical related matters."
Garhart walks in carrying a PADD and takes his seat.
"Well I suppose we have a few more people to show up then we can get started.
Richard, you should know that Andros really is distrusting of everyone except those on the Alexander. We can not afford to make one mistake."
"So you do intend to give parts to them? I try one last time to urge that to not be included in an agreement. They are clearly advanced enough to manage...Why they or we would feel the need for more material and ships is beyond me".
"Certain knowledge will have to be our sheilds then. I stand by the views expressed. Hopefully I am wrong".
He leaned forward, comforted little, but finished.
*enters*
"Terribly sorry, I had to deal with a patient that was reluctant to listen."
*takes a seat*
=A= Operations to Hobson =A=
Sir this is Lt. Agathon, I am sorry to disturb your meeting sir, but a runabout just approached the station carrying a romulan looking for a Mr. Higgins. Do you know who he is talking about sir?
OOC: Hey computers stink what can I say.
Avery, we are just discussing what we can offer Andros as trade to try and form a friendship with his race.
ooc: the fighters
He stood and acknowledged the others before exiting.
Madison enters the meeting room with a few padds himself.
"Would it be ok if i also presented my information as well. I have a few different ideas for a missions of current or future starships."
I know we are all Combat stressed.
and lucus will be need to be envoled after this Mission.
any other Though Genlmen.
I was thinking mre along 7,000 lbs of Parts
*then at that moment Another figure appears out of thin air as the cloaking field turns off*
I agree with Ransom.........*puts up his hand for silence*.....Dont ask how I got here, I have my ways.........
Now I was just listening in on this conversation, Eaves dropping so to speak.....and I can personally vouch for this species, Think about it hobson, if they meant us harm, they could have destroyed this station with just one of there missles, then boarded and you could have done nothing to stop them, I have spoken to there leader personally, I do think they are Genuin when it comes to protecting the federation space.
ok I see yout point woth the repair parts what about this.
but what about this proposeal Andros pepole needs a certian Matrial which is called Trilirium I say we give him 20,000 LBS and an open ticket to the Station as an inial opening then as the Alliance moves forward give more supples in trade and that 20,000 LBS we can seee if Andros trade that for Fighter specs
Vincent, tell them to let the Romluan in but sent a secuitey meet to meet this Romluan
OOC: Huh Richard? What can be used?
Sir i'm here sorry i'm so late!!
Ok, Lets bring this meeting to Order.
This Meeting is Classifiled Top Secert
James, you may state your points after we discuss the points of agnda.
As you know I contacted the Kights as we are basicly alone we need help in some form or another and we will make trade with Andros and offer the services of Forntier to him.
Yes Vincent I know is is not to tursting of us I understand were he is coming from for being alone for so long.
I was going to brief you about this but I did;nt relize how fast his vessels are.
so I would like commonets to what you whant to give them.
now the next topic.
*hand out Padds to the other officers*
as you see on the Padds thats sector J-23 were the Kazon and Romluan Alliance is mostly operataing they have stasrted contructon of 15 hybred Vessels so this Mission will be a kind of joint Mission but not with Intelligence as we are going in for the same goals this is Operation firefly to cripple the kazon and Romluan fleets by 60% the Unity is going in to take out the COnstucion Yards and Iam going to Sent the Rivendell on the second phase of the Mission is to cripple the entire Kazon fleet operations in this Sector as you all know from the logs of the U.S.S Voyager Captian Janeway the Kazon whated technolagy so now with the Alliance with the Romluans they have it and with the technolagy the Kazon ship uses more Plasma there Plasma useage is 175% so if they go at a top speed of Warp 7.75 it will take 3 months before they have refuel so the Mission the the Kazon took to try to take Frontier uised they fuel so the reports I have recived 60% of there fleet is in dock for the next 8 weeks for a re-fit so this is how we are going to hit them in sector J-23 they have 8 Repair/Re fuel bases and the Rivendell is going to hit it so what evere Kazon ships survuve they will have to get to there nearers repair depo which is sector J-37 which from sector J-23 takes 2 months traveling so of we hot those repair bases the Kazpn fleets will be crippled for quite a while.
Comments
"That makes sense from the tactical standpoint. The Unity strikes one major center, leaving small guard on another where the Rivendell can make its assault. This is obviously no diplomatic situation. But with the post-battle with the Na'Jigat at Avalon, the Rivendell and any assisting vessels must be close to combat exhaustion. That sort of thing I recomend Admiral Bailey be asked to consult with".
Hobson put his hand on his forehead.
"Shall we cook for them also?...It seems to me we are to quick to open up everything to this species. They appear to have the ability to swiftly become dangerous. What happens if Andros becomes angry? I do not like the thought of us bending over to service a species, are we really doing it because we want to be best of friends, or is the unspoken surpremacy creating a form of intimidation? It is a thing approachable by many angles. I am remaining adament to not being so open with them. If you know more to make coming up with these ideas more relaxing do share, but I cannot make sense of it".
"All I would need of your time Mr. Higgins would be to know the eavesdropping, or spying in the aggressive terms, took place for the last time a few minutes ago while your on this station. If that message is received you can go about your visit".
He returned to the seat.
"But it is good that we can all come together on one fact: they can become dangerous instantly if they choose. The moment we begin giving them what they want, even when they don't need it, we become pets. I am not proposing they be giving nothing to show alliance, I am proposing that from the start, we make sure it is known we want limits. They limit what they share with us, we do the same. I think that mutual thinking will ensure there is no aggression between us and they. It shows them we are thinking clearly, and have thought through our future with them".
Done, now can we get come to an agreement and propose it to Andros?
"Now that is a nice idea. What if we offer him food and medical replicators. Medical staff and another port for there troops to call friendly
In exchange we ask for there Photon battery plans for our defense only and ask them if they would be willing to station one of there fighter wings here at frontier. Who can remove the batteries if we ever use it for anything else. Also there may be an issue with the fighter wing here, put them under James or Tom's command. "
Well,that can be used as a back up saiuatin if somthing goes wrong.
"Being the jack of all trades as i like to call it for the station if the trade involving fighters is oked by the other race then i will refit a shuttle bay to house them and submit to the DS Academy that we are looking for new pilots. I am aware that have a wonderful helm and fighter program. I also aggree if i understand Tom, this may be a topic to big to take on in one meeting. Perhaps we should ajourn for today and meet later with more information. Put to the test what we've decided here."
OOC**I was in town so I couldnt post, sheesh you guys do post fast :P
IC**I agree with you all, but as it was said I am needed else where and I will take my leave. Ill try and see you on later admiral Ransom.
*then Brian Exits the Conference room making his way to the Runabout*
"Is Starfleet Command aware of this operation Admiral? After the attacks on the Station is would not be wise to abandon all vessels that support it. Their are more threats that may arise."
Andros will not be envolved in this Mission.
the Unity has an other Mission they are damageing the Contruction yards and the Rivendell is takeing the Repair bases becuse with the Unity attacking the constuction Yards the Kazon will send there ships that defend the repair Bases after the Unity.
Tom, I know for a fact that Andros will not do anything to this station or the men in Women in it I have certian Knowlage of that fact
Madison had been listening to the men talk scratching his beard.
"If these super aliens are our allies let them do this alone. The entire fleet is coming out of a crippling battle. Our little outpost here is not armed well enough if we move our forces to attack. We're Starfleet officers not commandos. Alone we're not ready. It seems clear most of us are not comfortable with these new people. But if they want it done, let them do it."
Actually Admiral, I do have Intel on what they lack,
Yes they are a supreme race, and my agents have informed me that there is one thing that we could give them, that they dont have. They dont have the use of replicators. Yes theres a problem with giving them replicators they can replicate anything they need, Weapons for instance, But from what my agents have gathered admiral is that they have so many people to help that they have lil food to give them, so they count on intel to give them the food and materials they require.
They to have had a major set back there civilization had a major war between each other, that practically decimated Andros's forces, from what I have gathered is that they need food and medicine above all else, Yes we would be taking a risk bye helping them but if it gains us any sort of respect in his eyes its worth taking, We would be technically helping a dieing race, We are Federation officers who have sworn an oath to help other races, to have first contact, and to well, help them out if they need it, and they need the help.
It seems that Andros is too proud to ask for anything so it covers it up with his army, his fleet, and his Fighter wings.
From the Unity's logs from what I have gathered is that they rescued around quite a few people from federation outposts that were distroyed bye the nijgat threat, even at the risk of there own lives they put there lives on the line to rescue them, they didnt expect anything in return but yet they did rescue them. I know it doesnt tell you much about there motives but when the Unity found them there ship looked Quite beat up, Andros was nearly dead and so was his knights, the logs stated that they were hounded for weeks on end bye the borg, the nijgat, the romulans, Fighting none stop to survive, to live, Dont they deserve out help even with that history ?
They may look like there invincible but they arent, the New star empire was after the Alexander because Andros wouldnt surrender him, then they followed the unity and the alexander to Kennedy, Andros could have ran, but he didnt, he disabled and destroyed around 20 ships, but allowed one to leave. He could have continued to run Admiral but he didnt, he stayed and defended Kennedy because it was his fault that the romulans came to the station, then he found a new world with intel help and with Intel help started to build there base. Just to have some degree of peace. Like we all want but we will never get.
I say that we should help him, and then maybe he will help us.
Perhaps you could Mention Batteries, Phaser and Photon Batteries, hes got those all along his planet, theres no ship that gets near the planet without them knowing it because of there Platforms.
Im sure he will give you the plans if you aggree to use them as a defensive measure only, But you could offer up if you dont use them as such, then he will have free reign to retrieve them perhaps ?
EDITED: These Are cloaked weapons Platforms for Defensive and Early warning sorta thing.
Iam fine on what we decided.
Vincent, what are your thoughts on the Mission with the Rivendell?
OOC: Yes I will send you some info in pm
"More intelligence officers? We have heard enough of the intelligence reports in this meeting. I don't know when the Intelligence department became diplomats themselves with this new race. Things weren't the same in my service there. We are spending alot of time it would seem on indirect informants, I think everyone's advice on the matter is on the table and probally not going to change. This must be the first open meeting, if the flaws in this operation have been pointed out and are just now getting discussed. They are generally flaws, not to be dismissed, and with no reason to dismiss them if we are all in this room serious about what we are trying to do. I am ready to get to work on solutions to what has been brought as concern from each person. The presentation period should have completed at least".
He returned to leaning against the table.
OK Meeting Ajoured until Tommrow when we will discuss the Mission with the Rivendell.