Poll
Question: New Starship Class Discussion
Option 1: Defiant Class
votes: 8
Option 2: Gamma Class
votes: 9
Option 3: Sovereign Class
votes: 3
Title: New Starship Class Discussion
Post by: Patrick Brown on June 30, 2005, 02:08:38 AM
Post by: Patrick Brown on June 30, 2005, 02:08:38 AM
I say we Deserve a New ship that goes along with our new posting as Acting Commanding Officer of the Uss Reliance it is my duty to think of the welfair of my crew if we are to go on missions such as we did when we freeed the crew of the Uss Newyork an Intretped Class Starship in in no match for what we are faceing so I say Sir that we need a newship a Powerful Ship we are Marines and we Fight if we do that we will Need a ship that is to our standered that Stardhip is a Gamma Class
Signed
Lt.Colonel Patrick Brown
Acting Commanding Officer
Uss Reliance
Signed
Lt.Colonel Patrick Brown
Acting Commanding Officer
Uss Reliance
Title: New Starship Class Discussion
Post by: Patrick Brown on June 30, 2005, 06:56:14 PM
Post by: Patrick Brown on June 30, 2005, 06:56:14 PM
I dearre Sir, I feel the Marines need someing to make a huge punch
Title: New Starship Class Discussion
Post by: Andrew Yates on July 01, 2005, 04:17:07 PM
Post by: Andrew Yates on July 01, 2005, 04:17:07 PM
or the Uss Shadow Fox, Silent Knight or, Reliance A
or you can suck up and name it after an honorable admiral
or captain
or you can suck up and name it after an honorable admiral
or captain
Title: New Starship Class Discussion
Post by: Alex Newberry on July 01, 2005, 06:25:13 PM
Post by: Alex Newberry on July 01, 2005, 06:25:13 PM
Well, there are plans on a Mark 2 of the class so it may go farther up. Hint...Hint... Command staff meeting tomorrow over there.
btw: which ship class?
btw: which ship class?
Title: New Starship Class Discussion
Post by: Will Karelia on July 01, 2005, 06:51:58 PM
Post by: Will Karelia on July 01, 2005, 06:51:58 PM
Perhaps a Steamrunner class then? Steamrunners were meant to carry marines.
Title: New Starship Class Discussion
Post by: Alex Newberry on July 01, 2005, 06:56:31 PM
Post by: Alex Newberry on July 01, 2005, 06:56:31 PM
In 2311 the Federation signed the Treaty of Algeron, which reaffirmed the Romulan Neutral Zone and forbade the Federation from developing or deploying any cloaking technology.
Perhaps the most impressive example of cloaking technology was observed in 2364, when the supposedly mythical planet of Aldea was discovered by the Enterprise-D. The planet had been hidden for centuries behind a complicated light refracting mechanism which bent light around it in a similar manner to the Romulan cloaking device.
The Minosians were also known to employ cloaking technology as part of their Echo Papa 607 weapons system. The Enterprise-D was forced to battle a cloaked drone weapon in orbit of the planet; it overcame the cloaking device by luring the drone into the atmosphere where the turbulence made it visible.
Later in the same year the Romulan Warbird was encountered for the first time when the Enterprise-D encountered one at the Neutral Zone. It was initially believed that the Enterprise sensor systems could detect the Warbird through its cloak, but it quickly became apparent that the Romulans had in fact deliberately allowed themselves to be detected in order to determine the Federation's intentions towards them.
Subsequent encounters revealed that the improved cloaking device still suffered from limitations. The Romulan vessels remain unable to fire whilst cloaked, whilst advanced in Federation sensor technology have made its invisibility less than assured. Subspace listening posts and gravitic sensors are both a worry for Romulan commanders, and the Federation has deployed large numbers of these along its borders. Perhaps the most effective development was the Tachyon detection grid; created by Enterprise-D personnel in 2368, the system involves a network of vessels which send tachyon beams towards one another across a large area of space. Even a cloaked vessel will disturb one of these beams when crossing it, hence rendering it detectable.
In 2369 the Federation gained significant intelligence on the Warbird when a Starfleet officer masqueraded as a Romulan for a short time. She confirmed that the ship must keep a careful watch over its own electromagnetic missions whilst cloaked, and that the radiative emissions of the warp engines must be precisely balanced by means of nullifier cores. Even a small misalignment in one of these cores creates a polarized magnetic disturbance whenever the ship is in motion, a disturbance which can be detected by a Federation vessel.
Ironically, perhaps the greatest single advance in cloaking technology was made by the Federation. In 2358 the Starship Pegasus was believed destroyed after a mutiny by the crew. However, in 2370 Starfleet discovered that the Pegasus was still largely intact. Admiral Pressman, Captain of the ship at the time of its loss, attempted to recover some technology from the vessel using the Enterprise-D. It transpired that certain Federation officers had been illegally developing a Phase Cloak, a device which could change the structure of matter in order render it both invisible and able to pass through normal matter. A vessel equipped with such a device could hide within a planet or a star, completely immune from conventional attack. The crew had been so fearful of what they considered to be a dangerous device that they had mutinied rather than continue to operate it.
In 2368 the Enterprise assisted a Romulan vessel in distress, and discovered that this vessel had also been attempting to test a phase cloak. The results had been disastrous, causing an accident that would have completely destroyed the ship if not for the assistance of the Starfleet vessel. There has since been little sign of progress with this technology.
In 2371 the Romulans agreed to allow Starfleet the use of a single cloaking device on board the USS Defiant in order to facilitate that ships missions against the Dominion, in return for all of Starfleet's information about the organization. Although the original agreement was to only use the cloak in the Gamma Quadrant, Captain Sisko subsequently violated this aspect of the agreement on many occasions.
Perhaps the most impressive example of cloaking technology was observed in 2364, when the supposedly mythical planet of Aldea was discovered by the Enterprise-D. The planet had been hidden for centuries behind a complicated light refracting mechanism which bent light around it in a similar manner to the Romulan cloaking device.
The Minosians were also known to employ cloaking technology as part of their Echo Papa 607 weapons system. The Enterprise-D was forced to battle a cloaked drone weapon in orbit of the planet; it overcame the cloaking device by luring the drone into the atmosphere where the turbulence made it visible.
Later in the same year the Romulan Warbird was encountered for the first time when the Enterprise-D encountered one at the Neutral Zone. It was initially believed that the Enterprise sensor systems could detect the Warbird through its cloak, but it quickly became apparent that the Romulans had in fact deliberately allowed themselves to be detected in order to determine the Federation's intentions towards them.
Subsequent encounters revealed that the improved cloaking device still suffered from limitations. The Romulan vessels remain unable to fire whilst cloaked, whilst advanced in Federation sensor technology have made its invisibility less than assured. Subspace listening posts and gravitic sensors are both a worry for Romulan commanders, and the Federation has deployed large numbers of these along its borders. Perhaps the most effective development was the Tachyon detection grid; created by Enterprise-D personnel in 2368, the system involves a network of vessels which send tachyon beams towards one another across a large area of space. Even a cloaked vessel will disturb one of these beams when crossing it, hence rendering it detectable.
In 2369 the Federation gained significant intelligence on the Warbird when a Starfleet officer masqueraded as a Romulan for a short time. She confirmed that the ship must keep a careful watch over its own electromagnetic missions whilst cloaked, and that the radiative emissions of the warp engines must be precisely balanced by means of nullifier cores. Even a small misalignment in one of these cores creates a polarized magnetic disturbance whenever the ship is in motion, a disturbance which can be detected by a Federation vessel.
Ironically, perhaps the greatest single advance in cloaking technology was made by the Federation. In 2358 the Starship Pegasus was believed destroyed after a mutiny by the crew. However, in 2370 Starfleet discovered that the Pegasus was still largely intact. Admiral Pressman, Captain of the ship at the time of its loss, attempted to recover some technology from the vessel using the Enterprise-D. It transpired that certain Federation officers had been illegally developing a Phase Cloak, a device which could change the structure of matter in order render it both invisible and able to pass through normal matter. A vessel equipped with such a device could hide within a planet or a star, completely immune from conventional attack. The crew had been so fearful of what they considered to be a dangerous device that they had mutinied rather than continue to operate it.
In 2368 the Enterprise assisted a Romulan vessel in distress, and discovered that this vessel had also been attempting to test a phase cloak. The results had been disastrous, causing an accident that would have completely destroyed the ship if not for the assistance of the Starfleet vessel. There has since been little sign of progress with this technology.
In 2371 the Romulans agreed to allow Starfleet the use of a single cloaking device on board the USS Defiant in order to facilitate that ships missions against the Dominion, in return for all of Starfleet's information about the organization. Although the original agreement was to only use the cloak in the Gamma Quadrant, Captain Sisko subsequently violated this aspect of the agreement on many occasions.
Title: New Starship Class Discussion
Post by: John Norton on July 01, 2005, 07:16:22 PM
Post by: John Norton on July 01, 2005, 07:16:22 PM
Thank you. I currently at the dry docks so I will be working on this while the Delphia A my ship is under going a minor upgrade.
Title: New Starship Class Discussion
Post by: Chris Newberry on July 01, 2005, 08:28:12 PM
Post by: Chris Newberry on July 01, 2005, 08:28:12 PM
The USS Freedom will be a Gamma Class starship from the voting and the new Marine ship.
Title: New Starship Class Discussion
Post by: Chris Newberry on June 29, 2005, 07:24:10 PM
Post by: Chris Newberry on June 29, 2005, 07:24:10 PM
Which of the 3 ships would you prefer for the new ship class of the Reliance.
Also, give a good name for it as well and it will be delivered to the Marines stationed here very soon.
Also, give a good name for it as well and it will be delivered to the Marines stationed here very soon.
Title: New Starship Class Discussion
Post by: lucasbailey on June 30, 2005, 02:54:27 AM
Post by: lucasbailey on June 30, 2005, 02:54:27 AM
Defiant name: USS Rebel (an idea...)
Title: New Starship Class Discussion
Post by: Will Karelia on June 30, 2005, 07:18:06 PM
Post by: Will Karelia on June 30, 2005, 07:18:06 PM
And the Defiant can't? The Defiant may be small, but its very powerful. Besides, I think there's been enough made-up classes.
Title: New Starship Class Discussion
Post by: Andrew Yates on July 01, 2005, 04:14:53 PM
Post by: Andrew Yates on July 01, 2005, 04:14:53 PM
Indeed the Defiant would be a perfact class for the marines, its fast powerful mobil and just perfact for deploying troops and infiltration missions and invading enemy systems, but my vote is for the soveriegn class. She is Fast, powerful, advanced, and is the perfact ship to operate and control missions. She has the equipment to scan the planet clearly and with presist accuracy so the movements of enemy troops. She can also prvide support fom orbit. She can bombard enemy bases above or underground. In my opinion the Soveriegn is the best choice. and for a good marine name...
the Uss Night Hawk
the Uss Night Hawk
Title: New Starship Class Discussion
Post by: lucasbailey on July 01, 2005, 06:22:42 PM
Post by: lucasbailey on July 01, 2005, 06:22:42 PM
The Gamma may just be beat by another one i've been looking at...
Title: New Starship Class Discussion
Post by: Alex Newberry on July 01, 2005, 06:54:08 PM
Post by: Alex Newberry on July 01, 2005, 06:54:08 PM
Wait, wasn't this poll for just the crew of the Reliance???
And I don't like Steamrunners.
And I don't like Steamrunners.
Title: New Starship Class Discussion
Post by: Alex Newberry on July 01, 2005, 06:59:34 PM
Post by: Alex Newberry on July 01, 2005, 06:59:34 PM
It was. Ft. Adm. Hobson, the tech involved with creating this fast and adding to the ship is mainly located at Katorlian Space Station Denvor since that is the location of most of the systems componets.
The second reason is I know that Nove Engineering Department is beginning the construction of the Interceptor Project and I didn't want to inturrpt that.
The second reason is I know that Nove Engineering Department is beginning the construction of the Interceptor Project and I didn't want to inturrpt that.
Title: New Starship Class Discussion
Post by: on July 01, 2005, 07:14:07 PM
Post by: on July 01, 2005, 07:14:07 PM
Gamma class, that is interesting. It would be possible I think. I know Mr. Fisher would be a good help to whatever would be needed,
Title: New Starship Class Discussion
Post by: Chris Newberry on July 01, 2005, 08:09:25 PM
Post by: Chris Newberry on July 01, 2005, 08:09:25 PM
and it can hold up to 700 personnel. 1100 in emergency for only a few hours.
I closing the voting now.
I closing the voting now.
Title: New Starship Class Discussion
Post by: Will Karelia on June 29, 2005, 10:08:12 PM
Post by: Will Karelia on June 29, 2005, 10:08:12 PM
Defiant. As for a name, the U.S.S. Freedom.
(OFF: I just watched Armageddon, so the Freedom comes to mind.)
(OFF: I just watched Armageddon, so the Freedom comes to mind.)
Title: New Starship Class Discussion
Post by: William Richerd on June 30, 2005, 11:23:44 AM
Post by: William Richerd on June 30, 2005, 11:23:44 AM
I say Gamma, As a marine i agree with Patrick, we need something with a little bit more bite to it, in reality how long could a Intrepid really last all alone in this space?
Besides, something like that will fit nicely with the traditions of a marine, first one in last ones out as the saying goes, and they need something to help deliver them to hot spots, and with a transwarp drive, that can be done a whole lot faster. Yep my vote is for Gamma class ship.
USS Maine or
USS Relience B
Besides, something like that will fit nicely with the traditions of a marine, first one in last ones out as the saying goes, and they need something to help deliver them to hot spots, and with a transwarp drive, that can be done a whole lot faster. Yep my vote is for Gamma class ship.
USS Maine or
USS Relience B
Title: New Starship Class Discussion
Post by: Will Karelia on July 01, 2005, 01:38:43 AM
Post by: Will Karelia on July 01, 2005, 01:38:43 AM
But... it's so ugly! I'm sorry to anyone who thinks otherwise, but compared to the Defiant, it's hideous...
Title: New Starship Class Discussion
Post by: Chris Newberry on July 01, 2005, 05:37:39 PM
Post by: Chris Newberry on July 01, 2005, 05:37:39 PM
The Gamma class was created at Gamma Division and will have the latest in technology develop there by the Research and Development teams.
Now, since I like the Gamma Class starship and am the Chief Engineer Officer on the Gamma Starship USS Delphia A and know the ship inside and out as well as built the ship from ground up with help to the specs with the complete Command staff there.
I vote for Gamma and I having an new Cloaking Device added to the ship and a few minor ajustments to add more quarters and taking some of the fighter squadrans off.
Now, since I like the Gamma Class starship and am the Chief Engineer Officer on the Gamma Starship USS Delphia A and know the ship inside and out as well as built the ship from ground up with help to the specs with the complete Command staff there.
I vote for Gamma and I having an new Cloaking Device added to the ship and a few minor ajustments to add more quarters and taking some of the fighter squadrans off.
Title: New Starship Class Discussion
Post by: Tom Titan on July 01, 2005, 06:40:50 PM
Post by: Tom Titan on July 01, 2005, 06:40:50 PM
Never the less he is correct. The defiant is a perfact match for the marones. But perhaps a differant class. You can search the web and alls you see is Defiant, Intrepid, Galaxy Soveriegn and all of the famous classes made popular by the seiries. Perhapes we should go with a less known and ship. Perhaps a Nova Class ship.
Title: New Starship Class Discussion
Post by: on July 01, 2005, 06:47:23 PM
Post by: on July 01, 2005, 06:47:23 PM
Where do you intend to have this ship constructed? I offer the Engineering Center of DS20. Starship construction is the fuel of an Engineering/Construction Division.
Title: New Starship Class Discussion
Post by: Will Karelia on July 01, 2005, 06:55:41 PM
Post by: Will Karelia on July 01, 2005, 06:55:41 PM
Well, I have a character in the Marines (Jim Raynor) so I figure my vote is pertinent too.
Title: New Starship Class Discussion
Post by: on July 01, 2005, 07:03:07 PM
Post by: on July 01, 2005, 07:03:07 PM
Not at all, The entire reason for it's name of Engineering/Construction HQ is for building at a quick rate, as many at one time as can be. 
Without sticking as Engineering HQ there would be nothing to do.
Without sticking as Engineering HQ there would be nothing to do.
Title: New Starship Class Discussion
Post by: Patrick Brown on July 01, 2005, 08:07:01 PM
Post by: Patrick Brown on July 01, 2005, 08:07:01 PM
Iam the First Officer of the Uss Reliance and we need to find a ship that we use that can insert Marines into any attack area an also be able to stay and fight with the Fleet of need be and even though the Gamma is Ugly it has what we need for the Marines
Title: New Starship Class Discussion
Post by: Will Karelia on June 30, 2005, 06:48:46 PM
Post by: Will Karelia on June 30, 2005, 06:48:46 PM
Eew. Not liking the Gamma. Looks like a kitbash of a Galaxy-II and a Sovereign. I think we should go with something canon (seen on one of the TV shows). A Defiant fits the Starfleet Marines perfectly.
Title: New Starship Class Discussion
Post by: Patrick Brown on July 01, 2005, 01:01:24 AM
Post by: Patrick Brown on July 01, 2005, 01:01:24 AM
Iam not saying the Definet is a bad ship at all Iam saying the Definet has limits that a gamma class do'nt the Gamma class has the Fire Power we will need for our missions.Also the entire crew of the Uss Reliance has voted for Gamma Class.But i still say that as Marines I do'nt what to be the RECON'S For the Fleet we should have a ship that can RECON and also wack a Puch as a Battleship thats way the Gamma Class is best for the Marines
Title: New Starship Class Discussion
Post by: Andrew Yates on July 01, 2005, 04:20:06 PM
Post by: Andrew Yates on July 01, 2005, 04:20:06 PM
Oh and yes, the gamma class is really ugly lol the defiant class is small compact and sly BUT the Sovereign is better
Title: New Starship Class Discussion
Post by: Will Karelia on July 01, 2005, 06:28:49 PM
Post by: Will Karelia on July 01, 2005, 06:28:49 PM
We can't have cloaks. The Treaty of Algeron with the Romulans forbids it. Sorry.
Well, I still say Defiant. We have enough Sovereigns (Phoenix, Ticonderoga, New York C, etc.) and the Gamma is too odd. Also, remember, Starfleet isn't always about military force. Don't forget, Expansion Fleet is mainly intended to explore the Delta Quadrant. A fleet of overstuffed battleships isn't feasible. Granted, the Marines are a tactical force, but they should have a smaller ship. Large ships like Sovereigns have crews of 800-1000. That's too many marines to use on one ship. They need a ship that can be manned by a light crew, like a Defiant. And besides, Marines don't need a big-time battleship, they're ground soldiers. Let the Starfleet ships handle the big space guns.
Well, I still say Defiant. We have enough Sovereigns (Phoenix, Ticonderoga, New York C, etc.) and the Gamma is too odd. Also, remember, Starfleet isn't always about military force. Don't forget, Expansion Fleet is mainly intended to explore the Delta Quadrant. A fleet of overstuffed battleships isn't feasible. Granted, the Marines are a tactical force, but they should have a smaller ship. Large ships like Sovereigns have crews of 800-1000. That's too many marines to use on one ship. They need a ship that can be manned by a light crew, like a Defiant. And besides, Marines don't need a big-time battleship, they're ground soldiers. Let the Starfleet ships handle the big space guns.
Title: New Starship Class Discussion
Post by: Alex Newberry on July 01, 2005, 06:48:09 PM
Post by: Alex Newberry on July 01, 2005, 06:48:09 PM
That partly the reason I don't want to use those the ships. I been looking over the treaty about the Cloaking Device and there is a revision which goes passed the Dominion War.
For all knolodge, this cloaking device is neither a federation, kilgon, or romulan in origin. Have fun figure who built it.
For all knolodge, this cloaking device is neither a federation, kilgon, or romulan in origin. Have fun figure who built it.
Title: New Starship Class Discussion
Post by: on July 01, 2005, 06:55:41 PM
Post by: on July 01, 2005, 06:55:41 PM
Was it? I did not know. I only noticed it's topic, and wish to offer aid in the construction. Or a base for construction.
Title: New Starship Class Discussion
Post by: John Norton on July 01, 2005, 07:10:55 PM
Post by: John Norton on July 01, 2005, 07:10:55 PM
It will take 3 weeks to construct the internal and other shell of the Gamma class ship at our shipyards.
I'm Commander John Norton, Chief Engineer of the first Gamma class vessel to leave space dock over 3 months ago. I can tell you we have been having to modified a few systems and upgrade a few things from what the specs say but it been worth whiled.
I am one of the 4 main officers behind in creating and putting together the ship from the beginning. What I saying is I was head of the construction team and have been making upgrades.
Currently, we have one Gamma class starship in space dock that is close to completion. 2 weeks max beofre we launch it with only required systems to another space dock in the Delta quadrant to finish the ship before it finally ready to be commissioned.
Mr. Hobson, if it possible, we can transport the ship to your station for the completion if possible by us?
I'm Commander John Norton, Chief Engineer of the first Gamma class vessel to leave space dock over 3 months ago. I can tell you we have been having to modified a few systems and upgrade a few things from what the specs say but it been worth whiled.
I am one of the 4 main officers behind in creating and putting together the ship from the beginning. What I saying is I was head of the construction team and have been making upgrades.
Currently, we have one Gamma class starship in space dock that is close to completion. 2 weeks max beofre we launch it with only required systems to another space dock in the Delta quadrant to finish the ship before it finally ready to be commissioned.
Mr. Hobson, if it possible, we can transport the ship to your station for the completion if possible by us?
Title: New Starship Class Discussion
Post by: on July 01, 2005, 07:31:05 PM
Post by: on July 01, 2005, 07:31:05 PM
Thank you as well. Any Engineering need you have, feel free to visit or contact DS20, it is the stations general purpose.